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Here's where you vote. All you have to do is sign your sig. Save the comments for the below sections. Here you just sign your sig under the vote that you feel is appropriate with how you felt about the movie. - Hello. And Bye.

i'm isglasses.com 22:20, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


[edit] Disliked/Hated the movie

  • animegirl16
  • Mercenary-x 04:12, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
  • -Hello. And Bye.

i'm isglasses.com 22:20, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

17:57, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Paikuhan 15:02, June 11, 2011 (PDT)

[edit] Neutral/No Opinion on the movie

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[edit] Loved/Liked the movie

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[edit] I LIKE PIE

further Thoughts

I don't know where to even begin explaining how much of an embarrassment this movie is to a classic manga and anime, but I'll start with the things I hated least of all; Goku in high school, letting the stupid kids label him as a geek when he could have ripped them all a new anus without even trying, and getting Chichi to like him; not a wise choice for the plot line, but I suppose some changes to the story need to be made so it doesn't look like a carbon copy of the anime. Also, since Goku was always portrayed as an "oriental" character, that would mean he would look asian. They chose a caucasian actor for the film, and a lame, weak actor I might add; Justin Chatwin has little or no experience in acting, and should not have been chosen for the role of such a big character. In fact, all of the actors did poorly. Their dialogue was corny, and, like Chatwin's acting, lacked a good sense of drama. They also did a poor job on Goku's hair; it looks like they dumped a glob of hair gel on his head and molded it around. They didn't even bother spiking it up. Then there was Piccolo's design; he looked like The Mask, except with pointy ears, and his outfit looked so ridiculous and derivative; a design that's been seen in Star Trek so many times. Also, Goku has no tail. He needs the tail to be able to transform into the Oozaru. And he transformed at the eclipse; he's supposed to transform at the sight of a full moon. When he embraced the Oozaru within him, it had a repulsive lack of drama. The special effects were clearly on a low budget, and they couldn't even afford to set up fans in the scene so, for example, when someone charges up an energy ball, wind blows all around them to enhance the effect. Krillin's absence doesn't do much good either; how else is Goku able to unlock his super saiyan power without the "pain of loss"? The worst part of the entire movie was the final battle between Goku and Piccolo. Goku's "kamehameha" cry was also very weak and dry, and instead of a beam struggle between Goku and Piccolo, Goku used his beam to fly at Piccolo and punch him out. Let's not forget Shenron's design; he looked like a stubby western dragon; Shenron was always an eastern snake dragon.

But there were still some good things; such as when Bulma first introduced the capsules her family invented, and activated the capsule, instead of appearing in an exploding cloud of dust, it transformed into a bike; that was pretty cool. And even though Master Roshi clearly wasn't as old here as he was in the original anime, he still maintained his "dirty old man" persona. Unfortunately, those don't change a thing about my opinion on this movie; If James Wong even dares to make a sequel, somebody please call his hit. --Comicdude2006, 5:05 PM, 2 Sep 2009

I Saw it,And i think it was TERRIBLE.i knew it would be,but i saw it just to be a diehard fan......wasnt worth it..... I Mean,It wasnt consistent to the Storyline.GOKU NEVER WENT TO SCHOOL,WANST 18,HAD BIG HAIR, HAD A TAIL,AND OOZARU WAS GIANT,AND KILLED GOHAN,NOT ROSHI,AND NOBODY KNEW WHAT A NAMEK WAS UNTIL DBZ,NOT DB! Silver Sinspawn 06:21, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Personally, I didn't particularly like the movie; if for any reason, mainly because it didn't have any development in terms of the villain of the movie (in this case Piccolo). Overall, I give the movie a 4 out of 10 (and that's because I feel generous). - Hello. And Bye.

i'm isglasses.com 06:32, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

for once i agree with you,but the main thing for me was it wasnt faithful to the source material Silver Sinspawn 06:40, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

It was far from faithful. It was a mess on many scales. The very fact that it didn't follow the storyline killed it for me. Grandpa Gohan was killed by Piccolo, that's not what's supposed to happen. And Goku's supposed to be a kid when he meets Bulma, not 18 yrs old. There's many flaws that didn't sit well with me for the most part. I also didn't like the removal of Piano, Drum, Tambourine, Cymbal, etc. for the additional of the Fulum stone monsters. - Hello. And Bye.

i'm isglasses.com 06:43, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

thats what i meant.What Annoyed me the most was the most important part of DB.AN OFFICIAL WORLD TOURNAMENT.that meant there was no way tien on chiaotzu,or nam could have worked into the story.and what was with the lack of taklking animals,no shu,no puar or oolong >.< --Silver Sinspawn 07:22, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

My thoughts? Well, you can read them, or you can read them while Goku and Piccolo fight on a dying Planet Namek. Failing that, I'll just summerize that the movie was simply an original spin on an old classic in the vein of the old Dragon Ball movies; it changed spects of the series while remaining entertaining in its own vein. If you can stow your ego pocket your pride for a few minutes, you might realize that Dragonball Evolution was actually a pretty good movie as a movie. Yeah, it blows as a true-to-the-manga live-action adaptation of Dragon Ball, but if you've watched video game, comic, and cartoon adaptations of OTHER movies, you'll note a recurring trend of taking the source material and blending it into a Hollywood pureé which is pallable for both people that are familiar with the series and people who are not. (Note: Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within does not count in this aspect as it was a completely original movie that had nothing to do with Final Fantasy.) ~ Doc Lithius [U|T|C] 15:32, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Even so. Even if we discount all those adversities and differences from the anime and see it as a stand-alone project, I still can't envision the likes of Goku as a non-oriental character. Race is a major role for me in this flick. Akira Toriyama didn't intend for Goku to be a white kid. I'm not of oriental origin, but I feel it's important to maintain Goku's actual origin/race accurately. They should have got a Chinese, Japanese, or Korean person to play the role. The same goes for Vegeta, etc. if they decide to ruin anything further. Like I said, the one character they really got accurately in terms of mannerism and appearance is probably Yamcha (and even he was missing Puar). And this has absolutely nothing to do with the manga, anime comparison. Goku is not a white child. He has oriental eyes. That's the number one racial criticism I have about this flick. I mean... General Blue is a German man (he's white), General White is a Russian man (he's white), Sergeant Major Purple is an oriental man! They need to get that one thing straight. If they made Chi-Chi accurately oriental, they should've done the same with Goku. That's my biggest criticism in terms of race depiction in this flick. - Hello. And Bye.

i'm isglasses.com 17:07, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Yamcha Was REALTIVELY the same,but the Fact that goku AND BULMA where white failed.....But there was no RRA in DBE....What upset me the most.the whole oozaru is a god,not a saiyan.and was Tiny --Silver Sinspawn 04:48, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I know there was no RRA in the movie. I was bringing that up as an example that the character races mattered a lot. Yamcha truly was the only redeeming factor. The part where he shot Mai in the back seemed to be the only non-G thing about the movie. I enjoyed that... almost as much as I enjoyed Piccolo and Mai butchering the town folk and then slaughtering the woman inside the house (yay for villainy)... though there should have been more of that. Goku as a white man sucked. Goku is supposed to be an oriental man, as are most of the Z Fighters (aside from Piccolo; he's an alien, not oriental) The same goes for the other alien characters. None of them are oriental/asian in appearance. There's too many problematic issues in terms of race when it comes to this flick, so I can't even begin to think about flaws about the Oozaru, etc. All that seems second-rate problems to me as they didn't even handle the movie properly in terms of character race. They should have made a more sophisticated movie dealing with the Red Ribbon Army, whom were the only characters I actually liked in all of DB [excluding DBZ]. - Hello. And Bye.

i'm isglasses.com 05:50, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

But see,the Shooting was the Problem,in a good version HE COULD WOLF FANG FIST,OR KAMEHAMEHA.I really wanted to see Tambourine.or Giran.or Yajirobe,or Tien,or Chiaotzu....maybe not chiaotzu.but they will be in the Sequels.... OH CRAP.SEQUELS! --Silver Sinspawn 06:04, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

For me, the movie lacked plot and relied heavily on visuals alone. The actions are well-choreographed, sure, but they don't make up for the massive plotholes that show up along the movie. The idea of a non-Asian Goku doesn't sell well at all. And what's with the sexy Chichi?

However I'd be lying to myself of I said there are virtually no elements that I'm very satisfied with. For example, Master Roshi and Bulma. I think Chow Yun Fatt and Emmy Rossum did a relatively good job in trying their best to live their characters.

I hope if they ever do dare make a sequel, they would realize past mistakes and errors and do what they can to fix them (And make reading Dragon Ball comics and anime compulsory to the actors. As research. Heh heh.)

Long story short? We Dragon Ball fans are not pleased! SynVegeta 10:29, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I watched the movie recently on DVD, and even though I heard the criticisms of it, I was still being hopeful that the movie couldn't have been possible as bad as what the reviews/general consensus was. My god, I was wrong.. I felt that they really messed up what could've been a high-grossing movie. I can understand a few aspects of the movie, like Goku being 18. Obviously, it's hard to find a 12 year old martial artist and actually watch him grow like we did with Goku, so I'm guessing that was the reason for the exclusion of child Goku. However, I felt that they shouldn't have used Piccolo as the main villain then. Vegeta should've been the villain about to hit Earth, and the movie should've began with Raditz. I thought about it, and although there will be a lot of depth missing from the movie, at least fans would be able to understand the movie. DBE was a movie made for no target audience. It was obvious that it would piss off fans, and no one knows what the hell is going on if they never saw Dragonball before. Also, my biggest pet peeve in the move was the ki blasts, they are ki blasts, not wind manipulation. It should be a solid laser of death, not some windy crap that looks like it would do know damage. I do NOT want a sequel, I WANT a REMAKE. -Dragonball fan~Cjx7.

Dragon Ball: Evolution was so awful that Fantastic Four Rise of the Silver Surfer and Batman & Robin were masterpieces compared to this. DBE in my opinion has found its way to the top ten worst comic book movies ever. I honestly can go on for hours of why this movie was a giant diarrhea mess I have done it several times. This movie is a complete disgrace to the franchise and with how Dragon Ball has been recently lacking popularity and criticized by people that don't know it well this has definitely not helped it at all. Unfortunately I have heard that it will be a trilogy so im guessing the next movie will be the saiyan saga with Vegeta as the antagonist watch them screw this up and make him comic relief and probably the third will be the last with frieza. The one thing I kinda liked about this movie was that Mai was more of an active character along with Bulma and Chi-chi because the series dosn't have many active female roles. Other than that I 100% despise the rest of this movie and the stuff will happen in its sequels. - Slayer25769

For all of its flaws, and there are quite a few, I think there are many redeeming qualities to the movie. The Goku - Roshi fight was pretty neat, as was the Goku - Piccolo fight. The capsule motorcycle is a great live-action representation of a Capsule Corp. vehicle, and the whole Goku - Chi-Chi romance is different then the manga, but still interesting IMO. Putting aside all the healing Kamehameha shenanigans, I still think the movie is fun to watch, and I prefer it to not having seen a live action Dragon Ball movie. -- Kamehameha 2.jpg 10X Kamehameha 22:00, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

True there was quite a few differences between the manga and the "real" movie. But that could also be said for the anime movies. Obviously one needs to take into account that DBZ is not as well known franchise as the Marvell comics for instance. Therefore one cannot expect budgets the size of a typical Batman movie also not the actors and script writers one would associate with a movie of that magnitude. Alll in all I do think that the producers of the movie, including Akira Toriyama (Executive Producer) did a great job. I mean we got to see a "REAL" Kamehameha!!! I do think we as die hard DBZ fans should rather than complain about the movie try and promote it and get more people "converted" to the DBZ lifestyle. That way, more money will be generated eventually bring better movies. - Force9, 24 August 2009

Unlike many of my traditional posts, I’ll keep this one simple. I hated the movie. Different people have diferent tastes so I can’t say for everyone whether or not the movie was bad. But, I know for a fact (since you can judge these things objectively) that it was a terrible adaptation. Now, as a movie, I’m sick of the traditional emo highschool guy wants to get laid with a popular girl but gets bullied along the way. Then he beats the bad guy and he and the girl end up together. Too cliche and non-dragonball like in my opinion. MajinFreeza 22:00, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

As a DB fan is went and saw this movie. It was so utterly bad that it actually became funny. Goku was totally lame! Chichi helped him to master the Kamehameha wave, what was up with that??? Bulma was pretty good and Yamcha too, but they totally screwed up Piccolo. I for one seriously hope they don't make another movie based upon Dragonball Z. If they do, they really have to cast a great actor to play Vegeta. But anyway, Goku being little kid, having a tail, accidentally killing his grandpa because he turns into an Oozaru and not remembering it that was basically the most simple and essence of Dragonball. At least in my opinion. And what happened to Korin and Kami and Piccolo jr? Piccolo reborn was the most important event at the end of the series. The only thing the others knew about the Oozaru was that Goku turned into a monkey at the full moon. And Roshi destroyed the moon at the first martial arts tournament Goku entered. At the third tournament Goku enters he doesn't have a tail anymore and the moon could be restored. That's when he meets Piccolo jr? In the movie Goku is about 16 and he doesn't have a tail. So how exactly did he transform into an Oozaru anyway? Goku never even knew about his Sayajin (what is the correct spelling anyway?) heritage until Raditz shows up. It was a shame they didn't follow the anime storyline. I can understand making a movie about the whole DB series would've been too much. They could've just chosen the Demon King Piccolo saga to make a movie about. And they could've summarised what happens before. And the DB fan already knows what happend before that anyway. And the move should've ended the way DB ended, with the wedding. And if they decide to make a second movie they could've started with DBZ, the Arrival of Raditz. Ok enough ranting, the movie SUCKED!

FLM-DBfan Yep..................It sucked. A complete rip off. I regret ever buying the God damned movie. What a waste of good money. His hair looked ridiculous. What was with Piccolo looking like a younger version of Master Yoda? Here's the reality: Goku is NOT a white high school geek who rides a bike to school & wants to lay Chichi, Bulma is NOT a gun weilding tough girl with brown colored hair who calls Dragonballs "Permethium orbs" (or whatever it was), Piccolo is not a light Kiwi colored midget who walks around in a cape, & there is no God damned prophecy about an Oozaru destroying the world. Damn the directer, damn the actors, damn them all!!! (except Toriyama) -Bulma Lover

[edit] DB: Evolution

I saw it too and I felt that it was terrible. Mainly it was bad because in the manga and anime, the reason why King Piccolo was looking for the Dragonballs was given. In the movie, it looked like he just wanted to destroy the Earth for the heck of it. Also, Piccolo had nothing to do with Great Apes or how to control them. Goku was also a very shallow character with almost no character development.

I concur. Piccolo didn't have any motive in the movie. It was very random. That was another shallow part of the movie as there was no depth in regards to character background to explore. - Hello. And Bye.

i'm isglasses.com 22:12, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

I Think HE wanted the balls so.....haha,he wanted balls.Nameks are Like Plants....i mean.he wanted it so goku couldnt stop him with them.so sort keeping them safe from someone to kill him --Silver Sinspawn 08:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

--Trueevildragon1-I thought the movie sucked. There was just so many errors in the movie. At first I thought this was going be good, but I was wrong. First of all, Goku shouldn't have been in school. And if this is the King Piccolo saga he should still be a kid. The fight scenes were bad. Goku did not fall in love with Chi-Chi, it was vice-versa. This movie had the potential to be good, but it had so many errors. And kamehaha looked gay.(This is Dragonball not Avatar the Last Airbender!!!!) And why is the Great Ape seven feet tall?! I have no director's experience and I could sum up the entire King Piccolo saga in 3 hours or less. The movie would start out with the conclusion of Goku and Tien's fight, later Krillin gets killed by Tambourine. And they are in King Piccolo saga, so they should be calling him King Piccolo. (They refer to his son as Piccolo). People fill free to comment. Oh Dragonball is a very violent anime, so this should not be rated PG movie. There was very little violence.

With all the violence aspect being toned down and the rest being botched up, the fact that they removed Tambourine and Drum from the story for some Fulum garbage killed it for me as it is. Tambourine and Drum were my favorites in the King Piccolo saga. And they went and put Mai, who has nothing to do with King Piccolo to begin with. That was a lame mix and match on their part. The exclusion of Tambourine and Drum killed it for me. - Hello. And Bye.

i'm isglasses.com 05:42, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

What killed it for me was the lack of key characters: Krillin Tien Chiaotzu Piccolos offspring NAM Etc. --Team Midgars Silver Sinspawn 07:42, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

For me this movie really sucked I watched it in a movie theater when it came out and I like died half way through theae guys look like they should be on power rangers along with every failed remake villain.

I decided to watch the movie as a fan -and for a schoolproject- and after i'd seen about 20 minutes i think... I was like can't take it anymore. What is this! The worst thing for me -except for the terrible plot- is that there are so many great cosplays of Goku, Piccolo, Chichi, Muten Roshi of everybody.. and they produced... Maybe someday I'll be able to watch the complete movie since it seems there are some good things in it as well, but for now I'm to much of a fan of the anime/manga so it kills me to see how they ruined it.

[edit] TheSaiyanPrince

The following words will describe DB Evolution: Disgusting Terrible Disgraceful ridiculous puke gross {you know where this is going}

Then why don't you vote in the above section like everyone else instead of creating this section. - Afamodu 14:25, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Real problem why DBE flopped

I hope this won't be a problem to anyone but I think I can muster up to why the movie was such a flop. To easily sum it up, there were 2 main problems. First, the screen play writer Ben Ramsey, this guy used to work on the X-files, and he took a complicated deep story into a simple minded cliche. And don't take my word for it, even the actors in the movie such as James Marsters criticized his script for being too simple. That's why instead of being a 2 hour movie that can fill in the plot holes, show more development and bring in more characters that fans will love to see, reduced to 85 minutes of no development and little pay off -_-.

And the other problem, and this one I cannot really stress enough, is FOX themsevles! And I don't mean alone by the fact that they're the ones who bought the rights to a DB movie, but they literally wanted to make it a bad movie in the first place. Why? To sell out, what else? They've always had a record for making bad movies and they actually had the nerve to make DB part of their list. Even when promoting it they messed it up. They barely promoted it here in the US and Canada, and instead, heavily promoted it in the Asian countries. As well, they had a perfect date to release the movie when nothing else was gonna be released, but NO, they decided to release on the exact same day as the Hanna Montana movie! Morons! They made a stupid gamble that they would rather see DBE instead of Hanna Montana even when HM is the latest craze by Disney today, what were they smoking when they came up with that idea? >_<. These are the same morons that are milking the simpsons dry, we get so many Seth Macfarlane shows, trying to replace the main cast of Futurama and have FOX news so heavily biased and yet have such controversial material on their station, the studio is being run by morons! Anyways, thoughts would be nice to see what anyone thinks lol. --HeartlessSlayer 14:58, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

I haven't even seen the movie and I agree with you. Not only was it a bad idea to have it released in theaters during the same time as the Hannah Montana Movie(IDIOTS!!!), but from what I saw and heard, it looks pretty obvious to me that they downgraded everything. Even if it isn't for children(Even though ironically many children like it lol), violence is a big part of Dragon Ball, and I'm doubting that there was very much of that. Also, Dragon Ball is a large, epic story that should be treated as such, but I'm betting that it wasn't from what I hear of it being as short as 85 minutes. Now I'm not saying they should have put everything into the movie storyline, since that would be difficult to do without making it too long, and I'm not saying to make it rated R for extreme violence(even if that would work better than anything else in my opinion XD), but they should have concentrated more on the story from what I hear, and they should have enough violence for it to be a fighting movie, but still be PG-13.

And speaking of Disney, why did they make an anime style movie, Ponyo? I mean I of course have nothing against anime movies, but Disney? they just don't go to together at all. At first I thought it was a joke, but then I realized that it was real!.....and I couldn't stop laughing! Now I may be wrong, but Disney has never done anything anime-styled before, so I think either they've gone insane and think this is going to work, or that AND the fact that they are losing their popularity and are turning to something that they have never done before as a last resort. --BrolyTheGod 22:44, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Very good points about the movie. And actually, for Ponyo, Disney did not make that, it was released in Japan a long time ago, Disney is just distributing it to North America, like they did with Spirited Away and Howl's Moving Caslte. Just because its under their name, doesn't mean they own it. The licence of that movie is still under Studio Ghibli.--HeartlessSlayer 00:00, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I should have seen that. Sorry about that, I guess it was kind of obvious. One of my only questions is, which Anime/Manga are they going to destroy next? Full Metal Alchemist? Naruto? Death Note?(Which was a decent movie in Japan), etc.--BrolyTheGod 23:18, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] My questions

I have never actually seen Dragon Ball Evolution(and I probably will never want to), but I have heard enough about it online, in the preview for it, and from my friends who have seen it. And without asking, I can put together that this was a terrible movie. With that in mind I have a question about the movie. If the Dragon Balls were made by human monks and not Namekians, one the time comes, wouldn't they not go to Namek to wish there friends back? And for that matter, how would they introduce Frieza? Last question: Apparently they already have a storyline for the next movie. Do you think that they will even be able to make that movie if the first one was obviously bad to most, but good to some? --BrolyTheGod 22:26, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

If another movie is made, it will probably go straight to video. They didn't have a ton of big names, and most of the ones they did (Roshi, Gohan) can pretty much be left out of future story lines. Even Piccolo could be replaced without many people noticing, due to all the makeup and such. Since the other actors are smaller names, and since the effects weren't exactly Star Wars, they could probably make a pretty decent, low-budget sequel. -- Kamehameha 2.jpg.10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 22:37, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Sad but probably true. I have repeatedly been hearing about movies on a preview, waiting a long amount of months, and then it SUDDENLY coming out on DVD without having any good reviews about it. And an even stranger thing, is when a movie that I have never heard of is suddenly on DVD. It's gotten to the point where I can see which ones are going to get nothing good said about them.

On another note, Section 9 got 5 STARS!? That's great but also kind of sad, since we haven't had a movie that has gotten 5 stars in a long time. --BrolyTheGod 22:52, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Wow, I guess I'll have to check that out. Who gave it the 5 stars? -- Kamehameha 2.jpg.10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 23:49, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Unfotunately, I only saw this particular review of it once, and I have not seen on on television again. It went by quickly, and I also figured that I would see it again, so, sadly, I have no idea. Still, 5 STARS!--BrolyTheGod 22:43, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

My favorite character of the DB series are Tien and Piccolo, who I respectively call Bigg Picc. Now as a man of colour, I see Piccolo, by his "rap sheet" and his demeanor, as a black guy. Believe me when I say that I have black friends who could have worn green bodypaint and the turban/cape and look just like Picc. Also the White characters are not 'good' for the movie. Now Most importantly, the series was based off of a legend of a man with a tail.....What the hell happened?MacCooler

I disagree with this notion. Although I agree that the white actors were incorrect for the movie and that they should all have been of asian descent, I don't see Piccolo as an african american at all. Not in the least bit. In fact, he's the only one that should've been a white actor. The only characters they portrayed in an accurate background were probably Yamcha and Roshi. And even Roshi was changed tremendously in terms of design. - Hello. And Bye.

i'm isglasses.com 11:56, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Nominrath's Review Board: Dragon Ball Evolution

When I watch a movie, I try to remain impartial. I don't like going in to a movie hating it or loving it. That's how opinions like the ones stated here are made. All the Dragon Ball fans went into the movie (whether you want to admit it or not...) expecting to see the manga and anime they loved in live-action on the big screen. When it turned out not to be that, fans immediately jumped onto the negative bandwagon and trashed the film.

Now, before all the fans jump to conclusions, I'm not saying that it was a great adaptation or anything like that. Actually, I rather agree with most of the fans, it was a poor adaptation of Dragon Ball as a whole. But does this make it a bad movie? No. If you look at it as it's own story, it's not that bad. Now, it's not gonna' be winning any awards or breaking any records any time soon, but it was ok.

The biggest problem, I feel, was that they changed Goku's character drastically from what he was in the mange/anime. In the source material he was a simple boy that practiced martial arts and tried to do whatever he felt was good and right. In the movie, they tried to 'update' him by painting him with that popular shade of 'hip' teenage drama that seems to be going around these days. High school, high school bullies, high school crush... too much high school. Putting Goku in a modern environment wasn't a bad idea, per se, but couldn't they have left the Disney Channel High School Drama package at the door? Dragon Ball was about fantasy adventure/martial arts, not about Goku adapting to the troubles of puberty. Eventually, they do get to the adventure, but it isn't quite a Dragon Ball adventure and it turns out to be more like a failed mutation of a sci-fi/horror/adventure movie.

The conclusion? Anything Hollywood gets their hands on is gonna' get twisted and warped into their own creation, that's their business. But sometimes they take it too far. This is one of those instances.

Lord of the Rings, X-men, Iron Man... these are good examples of doing it right, they took the source material and changed it enough to make it new and exciting, but never lost the core of what made it entertaining and loved by fans in the first place.

I personally loved the Blade movies the most out of the Marvel movie incarnations, it was adapted most accurately. The rest seemed to skip actual storylines and devour entire years of material into 1 hour and a half. This is, to me, the biggest problem here. It's not so much the inaccuracy itself in the movie-verse, it's the action of taking five years worth of episodes and material and putting it into an hour and a half. For example, in the case of DB Evolution, it took from Emperor Pilaf Saga, elements from Tournament saga, and finished with compounding elements from the King Piccolo saga into one hooplah of gibberish. It would have worked better, to me, if they worked on one saga and just got it right with all its elements. Now if they were going to pick a pertaining saga, they should have picked one, not three, and mixed them into what we got. So basically, I agree about your evaluation of Hollywood in general, they do twist and warp, but not for a better overall flick, for a worsened summary of a wide world of adventure, and that goes for all manga/comic/ series that have been brought to the big screen. - Hello. And Bye.

i'm isglasses.com 23:15, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree with most everything here... the biggest mistake of all is trying to cram all that material into a two-hour (maybe a three hour) period. You are correct, they should have just chosen a chapter of either Dragon Ball or Dragon Ball Z and stuck with that, but they didn't. However, there is one thing here that does bug me; I never said that Hollywood's twisting and warping of the source material was always for the better. I don't like having words put into my mouth, please don't do it again. - Nominrath

I didn't say you said that. Ay, confusing. I agree with whatever you said. I meant the intention of hollywood isn't so much to stay accurate, but to make a profit by jam-packing all kinds of gibberish into a two-hour radius. That serves no purpose but to demolish what fans have already grown to love. I seriously can't blame the fans for being pissed or angered at the result, because the result, flat out, fails in comparison to the original product. It neither fulfills the storyline its meant to, nor expresses the core moral of the story in unison. - Hello. And Bye.

i'm isglasses.com 04:00, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok. Just a mere misunderstanding. You're right, I don't blame fans for being pissed either... Playing a little devil's advocate, though, I understand Hollywood's reason for doing what they do; first and foremost, they run a business and a business is run to make profit. Getting the rights to items in pop-culture is the best way to do it as there is an already established fan-base that they can exploit. Second, they change things so that it isn't exactly the same as the source, otherwise, what's the point? But, I will close (at long last... :D ) with this: Prince Zarbon is correct, Hollywood has a hard time finding that balance between elements to include, elements to change and new elements to create when trying to take an already established story (such as a comic, manga, anime, cartoon, TV series, etc.) and create a big-screen adaptation.

P.S. - I apologize for the length of this section... I like debates. - Nominrath

[edit] Two questions

Question #1: If in this movies storyline, Goku is Oozaru (Meaning that the Saiyans don't exist), then doesn't that mean that Vegeta and all other Saiyans wouldn't exist? I can imagine that they would change him to fit with there storyline, but Vegeta isn't Vegeta without his pride of being the prince of all Saiyans. Explanation or thoughts?

Question #2: Since King Piccolo survived in the movie and was shown to be being taken care of a woman who was unaware of who he really was, instead of him being killed by Goku, what will happen in the next movie. If he is not killed after Piccolo Jr. is "born", does that mean that they are trying to shorten the story slightly and make it so that Piccolo is never created and therefore never becomes Goku's ally? And for that matter, why did they say that Namekians were an evil race? I suppose they think they can change who the later characters are because they likely aren't going to get that far in the story with these movies. But if they some how managed to get to the Frieza Saga, it would have to be completely redone.

In my opinion, one thing that was really lacking was a large fight scene between Goku and King Piccolo. Even though the next movie is likely going to have even more to do with him, and will probably have the fight scene that we have been waiting for, I expected more than two waves of energy colliding for the battle between Goku and King Piccolo. As for the characters, Yamcha was portrayed in a decent way, Master Roshi was a little too comical but it worked I suppose, I would have preffered to see more of a emotional connection with Grandpa Gohan and Goku, and I think one of the biggest flops was Bulma. They portray her almost as a bounty hunter with her guns and no nonsense attitude, making her look smarter than everyone else in a snotty way. Clearly, this is not who Bulma is. She is the some-what dorky, not completely focused, and almost girly-girl who is searching for the Dragon Balls in an unviolent way, which is also not shown.

When it comes to the fight scenes with Piccolo's "henchman", I felt like I was watching a Power Rangers episode. Not only do they plainly look like people in rubber suits, but they have no individuality whatsoever. I very much liked King Piccolo's variety of henchman from Drum, to Tambourine and Cymbal, and I was very disappointed to see that they were nothing more than what looked like poorly made sci-fi monsters, and were all the same. James Marsters is a good King Piccolo, but obviously needs more lines, and the movie needed to show a larger view of what kind of person King Piccolo is. Agree with me? disagree?--BrolyTheGod 23:11, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

I Agree with you on those points, but you brought me to a realisation. I have long defended this movie against my friends, and was set to make a reply here, but, realistically, to my horror THE LAST SCENE WITH PICCOLO is the only one that even gets close to the true story line. However, i must make this point. Take away from the DB storyline, and its like most western films. Not brilliant, not terrible, with a few ups and downs.
I'd like to ask that everyone here who voted no send me £10,000 (I'm British - lol) because i bet if FIVE people sent me that much money, my film would be 2 hours longer and infinatly closer to the storyline.... and i could use the other £49k to force Fox to let me publish it xD - Rai Starwind

[edit] No sequel wanted, but a REBOOT

Being a huge fan of Dragonball, even after hearing of the negative reviews, I went ahead and watched Dragonball: Evolution and I must say, it was the first time I thought of listening to the reviews. I was utterly disappointed. They did Dragonball no justice and let the fans down. Now I hear they are making a sequel. That'll be even worse.

I hope they do reboot instead, focusing on the true backstory of Goku and dragonballs, introducing the very important characters of the series, like Krillin and Tien, true origins and background for the characters, which tehy failed for Bulma, Chi-chi and Yamcha (which should be attributed to the setting which they were put it), bring the important anthropomorphic characters like Korin, Oolong and Puar, don't have the dragonballs be brought to a 'Dragon Temple' to make wishes and most of all have true and extended fight sequences.

I am not surprised if a fan made movie would have doen better that the Hollywood disaster that many of us fans had to watch. I know many of you agree.--wwwescape 12:06, 25 August 2009 (IST)

What I hope they do is make rebot that makes it more DB focusing on goku,FOLLOWING THE MANAGA OR ANIME,make those dramatic moments,serous although pg-13 battledamage,long fights,good actors,funny scenes with roshi,good actors who put alot of work to the movie(who cares about race at least they look good and make sense with the otheres),good efects,goku being goku,all ways wants to fight,hungry,slow at the start and HEROIC!One good rebot and I hope people agree is that the movie would be 2hrs1/2 long it places from the start of DB (kid goku) where he meets every one and all the events and either ends when goku finds krilliens body runs out crying and end when roshi read the paper and says king piccolo it end or goku just defeated king piccolo and goes to see kami.That would make alot of sense and would hopefully fit all of thoughs events and a sequal to that is when goku(adult)makes it to the tournement at the end of DB and ends at the start of namek saga.

[edit] Stop it

Everyone has the same opinon, we dont need to hear the same thing from EVERY user here. We get it.it sucked Stop going on about it.And,dont say "Im a Huge DB fan" Because WE ALL ARE --Team Midgars Silver Sinspawn 08:36, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

If you're tired of reading the same opinion everyone seems to have, then I have a simple solution for you (and all of you who apparently are tired of it, too): DON'T DO IT. No one is forcing you to come here and read the page and you have no right to come here and tell us to stop voicing our opinions. In case you haven't noticed, the title of the page is "Thoughts on Dragon Ball Evolution". So, who cares if almost all the opinions here are negative? This is our space to voice those opinions. - Nominrath
"And if you're not down with that, I've got two words for ya'..." - DX

I didn't think it entirely sucked. Sure it wasn't the best representation of the series, but it had it's good points. Anyway, I like to think the forums are a good place to vent about whatever (Dragon Ball related of course). Even if it's mostly the same complaints, it makes people feel better to express their opinion, so I don't mind reading the same thing over. -- Kamehameha 2.jpg.10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 23:35, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

I didn't think it entirely sucked either. There were minor instances that were enjoyable to me, like when Mai and Piccolo executed the villagers. But the negatives outweighed the positives, there just wasn't enough of King Piccolo in the flick. - Hello. And Bye.

i'm isglasses.com 00:42, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Please get some sanity

Alright you guys, I hear your complaints about the movie and agree that there were some problems with it and some mistakes were made. Hell, I think that's the only thing we all do agree on. What I do find quite weird is how you're all going "REBOOT HOLLYWOOD REBOOT". And it's not just here, it's everywhere. To you people I say this- I- actually, this is going to take another paragraph.

Look at it like this. DBE flopped in America. It was raped by the fans. It recieved almost universally negative views. The studio and actors and everyone involved copped huge amounts of crap. Things happened to the film that can generally be considered negative. It hasn't really been very profitable, is what I'm trying to say.

Now, in Hollywood they do what they think will make them the most money. DBE has been planned for ages, back when the shows only audience was nine-year-olds, and has obviously had to keep changing as they planned exactly what they wanted to do. Only recently are most fans even familiar with the Dragonball arc as opposed to power levels and Super Saiyans. It's been a difficult movie to make, clearly, otherwise it wouldn't have taken so long, and it's copped nothing but crap.

Now, taking everything into consideration, the inconsiderate FanDumb, criticism, lack of profit, and EVERYTHING ELSE, do you honestly think that any other studio is going to touch the Dragonball franchise with a Power Pole? Hollywood movie execs mostly have weird trains of thought, you guys should know that. What are the chances of a reboot when the first one did so badly? Unless DBE makes massive profits, there's no chance of a reboot. Of course, if it does, then there's still no chance of a Reboot. So NO REBOOT FOR YOU. --123.2.98.12 10:29, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Touch it with a power pole, lol. : ) -- Kamehameha 2.jpg.10X.Ka.me.ha.me.ha.....talk.....contrib. 06:17, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Thoughts about a reboot

I apologize in advance because this will be a large post. To begin with, I'd like to say that I despised the movie. Completely. I study film, and it has been my passion forever, but I hated, hated this movie both as a fan of the original manga and as a neutral moviegoer. The best acted character (King Piccolo) receives ridiculously short screen time. The effects are straight out of a Tv movie or something like Smallville (smallville's effect are actually better). The movie never manages to draw the viewer in, they tried to change the manga to make it appeal to both original fans and new fans and failed to gather any fan at all (well, almost). Bulma was a complete idiot. She tried to act like that chick from resident evil, I mean come on. It's pathetic in it's own right, but as a fan, I don't even need to get into this. It's a massive butchering of Dragon ball.

To whowever criticized the lack of asian characters: I respect your point, but, in my personal opinion, the use of Occidental actors was a right choice. The anime style of Dragon ball draws significantlly from Astro Boy. It's creator, Ozamu Tezuka, is believed to be the first manga artist to use the so called "big eyes" in his anime characters, which are based in American creations such as Mickey Mouse and Betty Boop. Honestly, i think both an asian actor or a caucasian or w/e are appropiate. Especially since Goku is not even human, so who knows how Toriyama envisioned a live action Saiyan? And, going along with this... An asian super Saiyan? In my personal opinion, that would not look cool. Besides, there is the business part to all of this. An asian lead character would not draw as much attention as a well known actor, resulting in a budget slash. This is something that I think a movie like Dragon ball cannot survive. Well, just look at Dbe. A proper movie needs 100 million more than DBE.

Regarding a reboot, as of right now, considering the ongoing economic crisis and the pathetic performance of the movie, the possibilities of a sequel/reboot are few. But show business works in cycles, and in a few years from now, DBE's flop will be half-forgotten, the economy will get better, and the possibilities of a reboot helmed by a different team may arise. Now, as naive and sweet and childish as it might appear, it's my life long dream to write/direct or even act a PROPER live action movie of Dragon Ball. And, as with many dreams, I give the matter much thought. Some of my thoughts:

I couldn't live with myself if it strayed far from the original manga, but I think there's something that needs to change, and that is the age of Gohan. as fond as I am of Child actors, I honestly don't think a kid can pull some of his scenes. For example, the fight with Vegeta and Nappa. Can you imagine a six year old kid fighting against a guy that looks like Stone cold steve Austin? Not believable, even by DB standards. I envision the saga as a 5-movie series (Hell, if it's going to be a dream, might as well make it count)

1st movie: Arrival of Raditz, Death of goku, etc etc etc, finishes with Krillin letting Vegeta live. (I would introduce Frieza in the first movie in order to add more to his legend).

2nd movie: They go to namek to revive Tien, piccolo, etc. Goku fights Frieza, becomes a ssj, the planet blows up. Ends with Vegeta returning to space in search of Goku

3rd movie: (this is a long one). Starts with the arrival of Future trunks, mecha frieza, king cold and goku. Androids, Cell, ends with Goku deciding to stay dead

4rd movie: Gohan goes to high school, (I would develop the Gohan-Videl love arc more than the manga, if there's one thing that kind of bugged my about Dragon ball is that romance is under-developed). Goku comes back from the dead, Babidi shows up, Vegeta is possesed, etc etc etc, ends with Vegeta's sacrifice but Majin Buu and Babidi survive.

5th movie: Majin Buu saga. Maybe ignore the whole Uub thing.

Any thoughts? I've never used wikipedia or anything like it before, so Im sorry If i do something wrong.

Mr_Satan

Well, quite frankly, I still think there's no chance of a reboot. Two live action movies were attempted before this: One Chinese and one Korean. I have no idea about the Korean one, but I've seen bits of the Chinese one - Classic cheesy martial arts movie, except it's been dubbed with character name's changed. I don't think it did especially well. --61.69.12.16 01:31, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
I like the pacing of your five films (and agree with your comments about lack or romance and skipping Uub), and share your optimism about the future. Sooner or later someone will try again, I'm sure, and most likely it will be a reboot. After all, a new director will want his own direction, for example Nolan and the new Batman films. Remember, Dragonball began as a manga, a comic, and if Batman Begins and the Dark Knight prove anything, its that good comics can make VERY good films, as long as one has a director that cares enough about the material to really try. Joratz 08:53, February 28, 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Takin off guard by the movie!!

Okay so some of you couldn't get over the whole asian thing, concerning Goku. Have you ever even watched the anime? He is white!!!!!!!!! Yes I understand it is a foreign cartoon that has been dubbed for our viewing pleasure but non the less he is still a WHITE cartoon/anime.

I was not impressed with the graphics but computers have a long way to go. Anime/Cartoons have away of creating the impossible with a feel of reality. Thats because it is like reading a book. Imagine how unbelievable the movie would be if Bulma actually had blue hair. I'm very happy with the blue streaks, I think she could of had a more Bulma additude, and the real reason she was searching for the dragon balls should have been mentioned.

I was also dissapointed that I had to inform my freinds that the real story was that Goku killed his grandpa. This was a huge error in the storyline. They missed out on a huge "BOOWHOO" section. Their should have been a Goku cryin over his grandpa not knowing what happened and then a later movie were the "Boowhoo" could begin again when Vegeta tells him how he squashed his grandpa in Ozuro form. But they did not hire me to write the story. I was glad to see Yamchaa as a not so likeable fellow, they did great comparing him to the original, I did not notice Goku having his ACTUAL personality, you know innocent, instead he was all worldly. I was fine with the Character ChiChi, she did a great job playing the role and I think everyone was great in their perspective roles.

I would not suggest they change a singal character in the next movie, except perhaps Piccilo, and where was Krillin?!?!?!?!?

Ya'll better not mess up my chances of seeing a second one with your negative feed back!!!

You can only expect so much out of a cartton turned movie. In my opinion they did a much better job following the story line then X-Men!!!

So please keep the movie going. I wanna see VEGETA!!!!!!!! —This unsigned comment was made by 97.117.244.223 (talk • contribs) .


I agree completely, Goku should be played by a white man, preferably the kid who is the voice of Chowder on the show of the same name on Cartoon Network. But if it is a DBZ movie when Goku is all grown up, the role should be played by Ryan Reynolds. Just because he can be friendly, funny, and seriously dramatic, just like Goku. Wasn't it always stated in Japanese slang that white men were "Round-eyes"? All of the characters minus maybe Roshi were white! As a matter of fact, the only Asian man I've ever seen in an anime was Brock from Poke'mon! lol

--Beefy1223 11:54, March 18, 2010 (UTC)


I am assuming that both of you are Caucasian, so in a cartoon/anime where you can't really tell race, like in Goku's case (black hair, black dots as eyes, either Caucasian or Asian), you automatically assume that the main character is of your own race. This is not an insult, because being an Asian, I assume that Goku is also Asian. Also, the name Goku fits in more with an Asian than with a Caucasian. If his name was Charles, or something there would have been a greater chance of him being Caucasian.

Back on topic, with the movie.

Considering all that I've read so far in this forum, I'm considering not watching this movie, but just because of the ok reviews I'm considering giving this movie a chance, what do you think?

Sabien5

Technically, Goku is none of our races, he is a Saiyan, in other words an ALIEN. Somehow I don't think our races quite apply.

[edit] WHAT!!??

I think Dragon ball evolution suck but you should expect something like that from people who trying to make a Action Pack Anime to a big screen movie I mean come on! the storyline between Goku,Bulma,and Chi Chi is all wrong and lets not forget the absent of Krillin,Oolong.Puar,and Tien!!! To me this movie wasnt bad but it changed the storyline from DBZ Drastically It was like i was watching a Action/Drama Like Power Rangers the movie and Twilight I give the movie a 2 out of 10 for lack Storyline—This unsigned comment was made by SS4GokuFusion (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Hated It!

12:56, September 23, 2009 (UTC)TreVegeta17I only seen the first 10 minutes of the thing! I didn't need to see anymore of it. First, he was a little kid when the 4-star dragonball was given to him. Second, Chi Chi didn't have a boyfriend when she met him. GOKU was her first boyfriend. Man, they destroyed the movie. That's why they only made 10 milloin overall.

[edit] MAJOR LETDOWN!!!!!

There are so many things about this movie that is not true to series that it's not even funny! The only reason I bought the DVD is because I did not see when it was released in theaters,which I belive was a good thing that I missed it after watching the DVD. I looked at this from 2 perspectives: The DBZ fan and The Movie Critic, they both hated it. In short, DB: Evolution is a major failure only "saved" by special effects.

Triblade Seetan 17:14, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

After I saw the reviews, I wasn't going to buy it, so I just downloaded the DVD to watch it. As it did make me RAGE at every turn, (except the anime-to-screen adaptation of "Roshi's Island", lol, he lived on a gazebo-like thing in a lake) I would have been pissed if I forked over $20 or whatever for it. (I haven't paid for a DVD for 5 years so I may be off with retail prices.) If they had made a movie worth buying, I probably would buy it on Deluxe Edition BluRay. But they didn't. End of Story.

BTW, when the hell did the Kamehameha become an air-bending technique? I understand that it acts like the wind, but it was never in a ball form, always a ray.

Beefy1223 11:44, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Eh

The movie wasn't exactly spectacular, but it wasn't as hellish as a lot of raging fans made it out to be, especially when most of those 'fans' happen to watch DBZ instead of the original DB. Goku was more less just like Gohan here and to me, it's not all that bad. I mean, Goten turned out out the same. Now I know that people are going to rage about Goku not living in the mountains in all, but in live action, that kind of character would be far too awkward to look at onscreen. Just because you're going make an adaptation, doesn't mean you have to retain EVERYTHING.

Lesee. Chi Chi and Bulma fighting. Why not? Bulma was Goku's partner in the original manga and Chi Chi got her share of fighting. It was about damn time Bulma actually got some action time cause from after the Freiza saga onwards, she was really nothing more than Vegeta's sparring partner in trying to be scary and to carry his son. So yeah, give props for letting them getting in on the action

Piccolo, Piccolo. I know some people are whining and complaining that he's evil, but I assure you those same people are the ones who didn't watch/read the original Dragon Ball. He remains virtually unchanged in all this. Heck, even his demon trio is there. It would make more sense. And hey, one of Pilaf's henchmen actually made it in the movie AND get some fighting time.

Now, it's real important to actually stop and think that a movie based on an entire series is not easy, especially when you have to cram it into a single time limit, so things will inevitably be left out of course. The acting itself could use much work, what with Goku fumbling with his lines in one scene and of course there's the dialogue but then again, it's the very same stuff you would hear in any episode so yeah.

It's not great, but it's not bad.

For those of you who hate the movie: Don't watch it again. Don't whine about it. Don't moan about it. Just ignore it. It's the *smart* thing to do. Waving your torches of exile isn't going to make it go away.

For those who liked the movie: Good for you. Don't let other people tell you what you should feel about something. Dragon Ball fans these days aren't exactly bright. Kaihedgie 21:18, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

I personally knew the movie would not be very good. but I went to watch it anyways just because I am a die hard fan, and love the Dragonball. They could have done a much better job, and I mean MUCH BETTER JOB! I left the movie theater a little pissed at that dissapointment. I think that they should have just left the series alone and not have tried to make a live action movie with it. And if someone decides to make a sequel to it they should at least read the Manga or since they would be making a movie they should watch the Anime...

[edit] Nostalgic

My cousin and I have watched the Dragon Ball franchise since we were little kids. We can still remember the days back when "u here bout the DBZ movie!?" rumors were ALL over the Dragon Ball fan sites in the 90s. Heck, my cousin has this large poster board of all these martial artists we listed out as potential Goku's in the rumored movie from back in the 6th grade. We had no idea Bruce Lee had gone through Yema's check-in station years before.

What I'm saying is, that when Dragon Ball: Evolution was announced last summer when we 19... It was an nostalgic RUSH. We both knew it was gonna ****ing blow. We still went to see it twice. We laughed our asses off when some kid called "Goku" a nerd.

Sure Evolution wasn't the kick-ass live action movie of the decade we had dreamed of when we were little kids... But I don't think anything with at least 14 years of hype could ever amount to what we hoped it would. The longer you wait for something, the bigger the disappointment in the end.

But eh.. I donno. I never really let movies get me down if they sucked.

[edit] IF THERE IS A REMAKE...

I really hope there is a remake. And if there is, it would be good to see the franchise go like this:

1st Movie: Goku fights Piccolo (BUT BETTER!) Piccolo would need to be explained when he joins Goku. 2nd Movie: Goku fights Radditz, and then Nappa and Vegeta. 3rd Movie: Goku fights and defeats Frieza, turning Super Saiyan in the process. 4th Movie: The Z-Fighters fight the Androids and Gohan defeats Cell. 5th Movie: Goku defeats Buu. 6th Movie: Goku fights and defeats Broly: The Legendary Super Saiyan!!!!!!

Yeah bra!

Actually, the next movie is gonna be Garlic Jr. rehash. Check it out, there's a page somewhere on this site. --DARK 15:22, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Oh. My. God.

It was so bad i could actually see my childhood being brutaly murdered. I could actually see the dragon ball franchise withering and dying. It.Sucked.Hard.

[edit] Where to begin?

  1. The movie was set in modern day.
  2. Goku was tall, thin, 18 years old, and didn't have tall spiky hair.
  3. The Earth was more like real Earth than Dragon Ball Earth.
  4. King Piccolo killed Grandpa Gohan instead of Oozaru Goku.
  5. King Piccolo had a female assistant.
  6. Bulma didn't have blue hair.
  7. Chi-Chi was asian and also tall, thin, and 18.
  8. Master Roshi was asian, not bald, and not old.
  9. Goku had Roshi's orange fighting outfit before he met him.
  10. There was no smoke when the DynoCaps were thrown.
  11. Chi-Chi most likely didn't have the Ox King as her dad.
  12. Chi-Chi did martial arts instead of having a helmet/weapon.
  13. Goku was a total pussy.
  14. Yamcha looked like a complete douche, and couldn't fight (no Wolf Fang Fist).
  15. Goku did practically no training under Master Roshi by the time he had to fight King Piccolo.
  16. King Piccolo is the first to gather all the dragon balls.
  17. Goku had to do gay little hand movements before doing the Kamehameha Wave.
  18. The movie was like 20 minutes.
  19. King Piccolo looked like a guy with green paint on him.
  20. Shenron was like 1/100th of the size he is in the anime.
  21. Great Ape Goku was only like 10-20 feet tall.
  22. Goku didn't have a tail.
  23. Goku was able to get control of himself in Great Ape form and revert back to his normal state.
  24. Master Roshi died.
  25. The circumstances on which everyone in the movie met were wrong.
  26. Basically the whole movie sucked, and was nothing like the Dragon Ball series. Furthermore DBE should not even be considered part of Dragon Ball.

[edit] DB:Evolution- My thoughts

I think i speak for everyone when i say it was complete garbage and was a major disgrace to the Dragon Ball franchise and universe. the reason i say this is:1.)goku was about 17 or 18 when he was supposed to be 12. 2.)Bulma is a young teenager not an adult. 3.)Piccolo was not allies with Mai she was partners with Pilaf. 4).Chi-chi and goku met by Ox-king asking him to find her NOT AT HIGH SCHOOL. 4.)(the thing that made me most angered) the scenario is SUPPOSED to take place where goku is in the forest after his adoptive grandpa Gohan not while hes still alive. 5.) I HATED IT, THE END


I know right?! Although, in the manga master roshi did die. Did anyone notice that Chichi was wearing maternity clothes? And since when did drum,cymbal, and tambourine look like big spiders? Why was Yamcha a southern player? AND WHY, PREY TELL, WAS GOKU A 17-YEAR-OLD WHO FEARED THE NAMEX? (The proper term is Namekian, they never took over the Earth, and Grandpa Gohan had never heard of them!

[edit] Pathetic

I rly hated the movie because the characters werent at all like themselves i mean goku isnt a bloody teenager and master roshi doesnt die in the series. Also Piccolo and shenron were SOOOOOOO bad. shenron is tiny and piccolo is a painted person. I want a remake and if the remake is good then a sequel

[edit] My thoughts...

The movie was simply a slap to the face of not just DB fans, but movie goers as well. My friend put on the movie after hearing all the criticism about it and I never asked what the movie was called, boy was that a mistake. They completely messed up everything. I saw the beginning of the first fight and thought "Gee, this looks interesting. I am assuming that there is going to be a pleasant sparring match between a boy and his Grandpa/Master... Wait, Oh god that can't be... no.. bug in the throat... slo motion face slap... oh god... aaaannnddd apparrently this loser is Goku?!!?!". The design of the characters set me aback as well, such as a non blue haired bulma and a not so perverted Roshi? IT WAS CRAP. I can't stress that any more. If you want to see the awesome review of this movie, starring That Guy With The Glasses, Littlekuriboh and Masako X, go to this page on Guywiththeglasses: Brolythelegend 05:00, February 19, 2010 (UTC)http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/paw/specials/16364-dragonball-evolution

i hated it,it turned a perfectly good anime to a stupid movie

[edit] SSWerty's thoughts

I felt that the actors themselves weren't the problem. I feel they were bad for the roles. King Piccolo's actor should stay as he had the intensity that Piccolo had in both manga and anime. I feel that special effects were not advanced enough and the budget wasn't large enough. $30,000 was what they were given. DBE could have been twice as good if the effect budget had been larger. And that's only the start. If the script had been written by a good writer, then the movie would be three times as good, especially if it stayed true to King Piccolo Saga and ONLY the King Piccolo Saga with and intro explaining the Pilaf and RRA sagas. The movie should have been around the length of a LOTR movie as a long screen time is the only way a DB movie can be made accurate. I agree that Goku being 12 as he was in the KP saga was a bad idea so he should have been about 15.

Now for the evaluation of the movie itself. I thought it was a decent movie in itself. Some things needed to be changed like the size and transformation sequence of Oozaru. Other things shouldn't ave been placed in the movie such as Goku knowing about the Namekians. Some things i liked like Roshi still being a pervert as his character was very similar. If you look at it as a movie wothout never having seen DB before, it is good. I have more to say on this matter, but that can wait.  SSWerty  06:28, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Dragon Ball Should've Stayed Animated 

GOKUS SUPPOSED TO BE A BUFF LITTLE CAVE BOY WHOS OBLIVIOUS TO THE WHOLE WORLD. WHO CAN PICK UP BOULDERS AN CRUSH THEM, WHO CAN THROW AROUND CARS AND WASTE GIANTS LIKE MONSTER GIRAN. GOKUS NUOT SUPPOSED TO BE A SKINNY WHITE MEAT WHO GETS PUSHED AROUND BY SCHOOL BULLIE. HE DOESNT EVEN GO TO SCHOOL WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think Dragon Ball is something that would only work animated. It's not a series that really translates well into live action. No matter how hard and faithful they made the movie, it wouldn't have worked well at all in live action, and it would've been extremely difficult to make a live action DB movie that would've flyed with audiences. Now, if FOX, Funi, and Toei had produced a new 90 minute feature length animated film for international theaters, that would've been a good idea! Jeffman13 16:44, April 13, 2010 (UTC)

[edit] A Sequel?

According to imdb.com they are making a Dragonball sequel with the same cast.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1385515/

Why? Don't the writers know that the first one was crap? Apparently not. Just wanted to share this with everyone.guys were

[edit] Never will.

I've never seen or watched it. And I never will. That is it. Live action doesn't jive well with shows like these. I don't

[edit] More thoughts. 

Let me address Hollywood in saying; Although I expected some pretty horrible things coming from a Western studio. Hollywood has superceded my worst expectations for this, in a very negative way. BUT, I do understand why some stuff was changed.

-I get that in order to not have to go through two or more casting sessions, Goku had to be about 18 in the movie. Disappointing, but I understood. (On a side note, Casting the kid from Chowder as Chibi Goku was a great idea whomever stated that. Great call.) This make Goku in High School would have made it easier for non fans to enjoy the movie and sequel? without confusion. I get that.

-I get that making a million Dragonball franchise movies in live action would be mad expensive, and it would be easier to summarize Dragonball in one movie that is slightly different from the original storyline so you can focus more on DBZ movies. I get that too.

-Hell, I even get that you wanted to try and reach out to non DB fans, so you had to rewrite some stuff, and adapt new concepts. I get it.



BUT WHY?! Why COMPLETELY ruin everything we held so dear about Dragonball?! I know at this point these comments are pretty redundant but still.

-Oozaru? FAIL

-Piccolo? FAIL

-casting justin chatwin as Goku? EPIC FAIL!!! (and on a personal note, I am sick of Ryan Reynolds, and he would be a horrible casting for Goku. Jackie Chan like 20 years ago, great. but someone would have to seriously consider a new actor for Goku.) And writing his role so he is some loser asswipe in High school? come one. I think this guy had a secret hatred for DB. I think the powers that created this movie had a personal Vendetta out to ruin Dragonball for everyone.

-Roshi & Bulma? I was pretty comfortable with their characters. a great adaptaion considering it could have been alot worse. I support the current cast for them.

-Yamcha? eh, I could take it or leave it. if they recast him, fine, if not, oh well, Personally, I didn't care for him much.

-And just for all of the rest of the things we fans had to endure while watching this movie...I depend my money back, and mitigated damages for time of my life wasted, and punitive damages to make people think twice before making a cruddy movie. Even taking into consideration that it was a hollywood production and that some elements would be changed, this was horrible.



At the risk of possibly sounding overly redundant, I bid you all good day. And I wish on the Dark Star Balls that your lives be one day enriched with a great DB live action movie.

-Pathos

"Let He Without Sin Cast The First Kamehameha!"-unknown




I KINDA LIKED IT

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its better than the korea dragon ball live action movie and because the korean movie was majorly screwed up

in dbe the only major screw ups were

roshi (he shouldnt look young because hes supposed to be 300 yrs old)

bulma (her hair should be blue)

piccolo (this was the biggest screw up)

mai (she's not much of a killer)

gokus tail and how he transformed (he had no tail and transformed leaving a major plot hole by completely ruining the saiyan concept)(ok that was the biggest screw up)

they should definately make a sequel brndn rgt 04:51, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

[edit] IT SUCKED

it SUCKED!

[edit] Popcornchiken Thoughts on DB: Evolution

OMG!!!!! LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S BETTER THAN MY FAV SHOW WHAT NOT TO WEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NO. YOUR WRONG IT WAS SHIT.

[edit] just saiyan...

(It's been about a year since the entire world witnessesed the adaptation related to one of the best mediums to derive from Japan, known as Dragonball: Evolution. I've read and I've spoken to a lot of responses from "fans" that have either seen or haven't seen this movie. Even Kyle Herbert (original voice of Adult Gohan and the Narrator for the English dub) said that he hated it (he even had a roast for it). Dragon Ball has been a great source of entertainment for anime fans and, being a fan myself believe, that it will continue on for years to come.



Now I'm not gonna get on top of a soapbox and preach about this movie, just tell you what I've noticed about the movie. The characters have some type of similarity to their original counterparts. Goku is depicted as an akward kid, with akward hair that cannot change, an appetite (he eats a Turkey drum from out of nowhere) and the strength to channel martial arts and become strong. This doesn't show a lot in the movie, except when he engages in fights throughout the movie. Gohan ends up being killed by Piccolo instead of Oozaru Goku. The mourning scene could have been done a lot better. Bulma is a scientist from her father's company, Capsule Corp, and uses technology to find the Dragonballs. The difference with the movie version is that she is more quiet than the original, not to mention that she actually fights. Roshi (of course, the original character goes by an array of different names) is an old man (but not too old) that lives on secluded land away from the city (which is called Paozu, the place that Goku is suppose to be from in the original material), keeps bikini magazines in trunks and wears anime girls on his shirts. Later on, he wears what looks like something that the original Roshi would wear. And, of course, how could we forget him groping Bulma on more than one occasion. Yamucha is a desert bandit that only favors the English version of the original character. Chi-Chi is a girl who lives a good lifestyle and knows martial arts (she was a princess in the original). Piccolo is an alien that was trapped by masters (there was only one on the original material) and later escaped to exact revenge, with the ability to create monsters from himself (through DNA extract, instead of eggs like the original). Mai is a shift-changing lackey.



I explained that because even though there are differences that hinder the moral of "fans", there are things that stay true to the source material, even if it is little. People need to realize a couple of things. This movie was called "Dragonball: Evolution". Notice that there was no "Z" in the title. That's because this was suppose to be the beginning of Goku's story with the dragonballs. If you think about it (and know about the original "Dragon Ball"), it's a coming-of-age story about a boy who is on his way to become a great warrior. So of course there is no Raditz, Vegeta, Nappa, Freiza, or super saiyans of any kind. As far as the race of the characters, I thought that as a society we were suppose to accept all races. Apparently, Caucasians and Asians keep being separated and criticized by the masses. So what if Goku was a white kid, if you think about it...GOKU WAS AN ALIEN! You see, if you pay atteniton to the artwork of the original, everyone looked about the same to a degree or shared favorable features. Goku was no exception, since if he was an alien that looked like a human, he had no race to share with those on Earth. I commend those who recognize that anime is highly influenced by western visualization (big eyes being the more noticeable of all examples). I think that the cast did their best to portray the original characters.



Of course, there are questions that were raised about the movie. To try and help, I've come up with explanations for some things. Piccolo has power that not many on Earth have access to, so we have no idea of what he is really capable (assuming that we know all about Piccolo). So whether he's crushing a house and removing water without touching it, or flying in an unknown ship (he could have built it really fast, assuming that they intend for him to be from a world that is technologically superior than Earth) Piccolo has powers to do all sorts of things. Mai was a real surprise, since she was working for Emperor Pilaf in the original. When Goku became Oozaru, it was noticed that he had no tail. There would have been no way to explain Goku having a tail throughout the movie (considering that he would have to spend time to hide it, and the tail itself would have played on the whole "evolution" thoery...could have made some people angry). Not having the tail, in short, made the story easier to tell. And how silly would it be for a 12-year-old to be wandering in the woods fighting things? Making Goku of high school age made it so that everything would seem more even, considering that we don't want to encourage violence on pre-teens...dangerous. This movie had a budget that would only work for a normal type of movie, so Shenron could not be any longer than what they made him (it'd be too complex = more money needed) and Oozaru could not be too big (even though I would have loved to see it, a giant and hairy creature = more money needed).



If this movie was made to mimic the manga and/or anime, it would be terrible and a waste of money. Since a lot of people don't know about Dragon Ball enough, Americans watching something that is completely Japanese-made would go over their heads. This movie was a way to help people understand and be introduced into the franchise. The movie needed to be able to cater to a lot of demographics. This way, they make more money and be able to create more for the franchise. You have to think of not only the fans of Dragon Ball, but the fans of anime, fans of cartoons, fans of action movies, etc. The more people that watch = more money. In short, the movie was suppose to be realistic in a realstic-like world (because we want to feel that it can exist).



My overall thoughts on this movie...IT WAS NOT THAT BAD! Some of my friends actually enjoyed the movie very much, and they are not as big of fans as I am. I appreciated the work that went into making a live-action movie possible. I admit, it was a bit of a gamble, but at least it was tried with great consideration of things. Of course, this was not the best movie ever, but you have to think of why the movie was made the way it was. I LOVE DRAGON BALL! I don't think I will find another story that provokes me in a more positive way than Dragon Ball.



I'll leave this with what Kyle Herbert told me..."To each it's own")

it was a waste of money. the story didn't even follow the storyline.
  • Dragonball – Evolution (video game).jpg

the movie was a piece of crap


Your hole ramble is dumn they tryed to add a hole bunch of sagas into a movie goku needs a tail to transform no one can control him he need a full moon to transform yes we understand that the movie was based after dragon ball and not dragon ball z but they took a great anima and turned it into a movie that made no sense if you new nothing and dragon ball and watch it youll be asking your self why the F**k did piccollo get look up 2000 years ago so is goku 2000 also cause piccollo controled him (you really should learn how to spell before you call someone "dumb" lol)

[edit] PLEASE DONT MAKE ANOTHER,LET A GOOD MOVIE MAKER MAKE IT.

Ahhhhhhhhhh! the movie itself could have me made ME turn ssj,

i hated it,i dont even want to talk about how much it sucked,

and how much it DIDNT stick to the story.at all!


i just wish somebody like michael bay would make Dragon Ball Z,

i dont blame the makers all that much for DBE,because obviously DBZ would be hard to put into a movie,

but for heavens sakes dont change everything,and give the shit a bad name!

let a profesional do it,and have devoted actors,that actually look like the characters.

there are PLENTY of huge dbz fans,hell,most of our dads could have been dbz fans,that really want a good dbz movie,

we need something to look foward to,

weve watched Dragon Ball,

weve watched Dragon Ball Z,

weve watched the Dragon Ball Z films,

weve even watched Dragon Ball GT

US FANS NEED A GOOD DBZ MOVIE,

AND WE WANT THAT BITCH TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF AN HOUR AND A HALF,

AND TO HAVE ATLEAST 5 PARTS.

MORE THE BETTER,BUT BEFORE WE START TALKING ABOUT THAT,

we need to make it badass,please.they made transformers almost perfect,

and that was harder than dbz.it makes me mad to see all these movies coming out that were based on cartoons,

but we cant even make a good DRAGON BALL Z movie! ugh,

im getting so tired of waiting and anticapating.

[edit] DBE sucked!!!!!!!!!!!!!ALL IS WRONG!!!!!!

My Thoughts:

1.Goku haven't been in school.(not 18)

2.Master Gohan died when he was a kid.

3.Goku killed Gohan in Oozaru form not Piccolo.(King Piccolo)

4.Mai is not working on Piccolo(should be E.Pilaf)

5.Goku transforms Great Ape in full-moon not eclipse(Goku is lucky*ECLIPSE*)

6.Piccolo Jr. is not born after King Piccolo died or if there gonna make a movie Piccolo left his baby secretly(Sorry for Piccolo fans)

7.Goku and Chi-Chi met when they were a kid.(Goku doesn't know about the difference between man and woman)

8.They create a movie in a low-budget(*Fox!Fox!Fox!*)

9.Yamcha is a thief-punked No!Wolf Fang Fist

10.Master Roshi is not old well i think Gohan is older than Roshi

11.then Gohan son of goku will have different age because gohan was born when goku was 16 (they ruining Dragonball)

12.Piccolo is looked like "The Mask" somebody is smokin'

13.Im gonna wait Dragonball Reborn it could be the great movie.

I can't believe how this movie was made everything about the movie is wrong,1st off Justin Chatwin,a white guy (not trying to be racist) is playing Goku who is Japanese in facial features 2nd,how the topics is all wrong Goku Didnt know how to Drive(ever!!!!). I don't know what's going through people minds who liked this movie but i think this were a waste of time and money and an absoulte embarrasment to the Dragon Ball Universe and fans

Dissapointed, they really made a mess of piccolo, no krillin, no real plot explanation, and to be fair i've always imagined Goku to be more of a western character, but the actor was terrible, and if they do make a sequel, surely it can't be as bad as the first? :/

[edit] Disgraceful

Dragon Ball is awesome! Brilliant, (addicting) DBE was 10 minutes of trash. 1. Yamcha is totally kickass and in the movie he dosent even do anything. 2. Justin chatwin and Bulma are crackers. 3. Goku with his physique, attitude and charisma in the movie rings underdog to me, not "STRONGEST IN THE UNIVERSE". 4. Bulma has guns?! WTF?! 5. Piccolo looks like a child molestor painted green

they messed up eveything in that movie goku was supposed to meet bulma at age 12 not 19 krillin wasnt in it piccolo didnt kill grampa gohan it never happened master roshi wasnt on an island and there were no animals yamcha wasnt evil tien and choutzu werent there it was all messed up that was like a remake of gohans story at high school and goku met chichi wen he was 12

I LOVE IT!!!

[edit] DBE bad dragon ball movie or good movie that isnt true to source material

DBE was overrall a good movie on its own but talking about it as a dragon ball movie it sucked Goku like all saiyans stay in their prime for a while of course explaining why in the manga and anime hes a kid for quite a while even though hes 14. But in the movie hes 14 and looks it which is easy to forgive but when all kinds of things are f****ed up not so much even some characters are completely dropped out of the movie like Oolong and with so many complaints theres not much that can't be said but Im going to say right now that overrall its not a bad movie if you don't think of it as a dragonball movie at least so Im going to give it a 2.5 out of 6 it sucked as a dragonball movie but as a reguler action movie not so much

[edit] No present opinion

At present time, I'm going to put my name on the Neutral list due to the fact that it really isn't a priority on my "to see" list. Once I do see it, my status will probably change, but until then, I won't judge it either way. When it comes to movies and games, the only opinion that matters to me is mine. Oh, and LMAO at the comment about Piccolo looking like a child molester painted green. Ghost Leader 18:19, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

[edit] It Should've been made as an Anime.

I couldn't stand watching this piece of garbage for the first half-hour; it would've been better as an anime. This movie is evident that American moviemakers can't make a good film from a popular anime, let alone make it live-action.


Here's why Evolution failed:

  1. Goku has no spiky hair and not as good as the anime Goku.
  2. The setting is modern day Earth, when it should've been an alternate universe.
  3. All the characters are horribly played out.
  4. Plus, the characters have been changed to simple teenagers or adults, almost to the point of no recognition.
  5. Weak plot
  6. The characters do not protray their physical apperances.
  7. Bad special effects (this butchered the movie).
  8. No Vegeta (but I'm glad they didn't show him in this).

I believe them moviemakers would take my advice and forget about making another anime into a live action film, because the orginal anime is far better to watch. So if you haven't seen Evolution, aviod it, and I mean litterly aviod it! Also, I am not looking forward to the sequal.

[edit] Was it so hard to follow the anime?

The main thing that was wrong with the movie is the storyline. It should have stuck closely to the Dragon Ball anime including going from Goku as a kid, to a teenager played by two actors; a kid and a teenager/young man of course and why was Goku in high school? Gohan goes to high school; Goku was raised in the woods by Grampa Gohan until he was killed. Also it should have had the world martial arts tournaments in the film and therefore Tien and Chaotzu thus enabling the audience to see the character development and so the battleground of King Piccolo and Goku would be at the tournament the same as the anime. The casting and appearances were also appalling. I think that because it is an American film it should have had American actors/actresses because the only character in the series who looks Asian to me is Chi Chi because of hairstyle and clothes - Their eyes in the anime are large. Goku's character should have been a fairly/or muscular actor not a twiglet. The characters should resemble those from the anime including hairstyle and colour - why did Master Roshi have black hair and did Bulma have blue/green hair? if not that it should be blonde as she is always saying she is so pretty etc and whats with Goku's hairstyle? maybe a wig would have looked better. Also am I the only one who's noticed that King Piccolo is grey? If Hulk can be green why can't King Piccolo. Finally, the acting by all was disappointing but the terrible script is mostly to blame. This film needs a serious revamp not a sequal; it's just ruining the dragon ball name.

[edit] WOW

Ok if they can get a 12 year old to play in The Last Airbender there should have been NO PROBLEM what so ever getting one to play goku GOKU LEARNED THE KAMEHAMEHA WHEN HE WAS LITTLE NOT WHEN HE WAS 18 AND HE DID NOT LEARN BY TRYING TO SCORE WITH CHI CHI. THE REST OF THIS WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID. BUT COMON YOU GUYS COULD HAVE DONE WAYYYYY BETTER IM 13 YEARS OLD AND I KNOW WAYYYYYYY MORE THAN WHO EVER THOUGHT OF MAKING THIS MOVIE COULD EVER KNOW......I HAVE SPOKEN75.42.196.185 18:45, July 30, 2010 (UTC)GOHAN

[edit] Seriously...

Honestly, terrible plot/no Red Ribbon Sagas/barely anything to do with the original DB = EPIC FAIL

I think that instead of wasting money making this, they should have just made another anime. I've seen a fan-fiction story called Dragon Ball ST(Saiyan Tales) that looked like it was perfect to be made into a new series. There could've been new Super Saiyan levels for Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Trunks and Goten. Super Saiyan 5 (Legendary Super Saiyan) would've been the final form and of course, Vegeta would've been able to turn into Super Saiyan 3. Gohan would've also been able to turn into this form, but only with the help of his mystic powers that he obtained in DBZ and also from training a year in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. Of course, it would've been a challenge since he stop training as much to focus on his career as a scholar. Goten and Gohan would've been able to transform into Super Saiyan 2(on their own) with some intense training from their fathers. It would've been difficult because of their lack of training after DBZ. Super Saiyan 3 would've been the highest level that Gohan reached while Super Saiyan 2 would've been the highest level that Trunks and Goten reached. Only Vegeta and Goku would've reached the Legendary Super Saiyan form but not until the final battle at the end of the series(for dramatic purposes). Even though Super Saiyan 4 isn't technically a Super Saiyan level(DBGT wasn't based on Toriyama's story) it still would've been included in this series. Also, Pan would've been the first female Super Saiyan. Oh, there would be some sexuality and mild language on this show. This won't be the child friendly show of old. It would be shown on either Adult Swim or Spike TV.



[edit] CHANGING THS STORY IS A BIG MISTAKE

The dragon ball story in the managa is great, but the movie horrible. Goku is orital not white. Kami is not in it. The origin of Goku is wrong. The origin of the Dragon Balls was wrong. the Dragon balls were created by Kami. Changing everything is a Big Mistake

[edit] vegeta8131

It ****ing sucked it suck so efin bad i wanna i wanna gah i dont efin know i want toryoma to walk down there and go (kamehameha!!!!!!!!!!!) and the studio blows the fuck up.

im efin 12 and i wud make it beeter then that i mean com on oh and who went ta awa this year 2010.

[edit] Anonymus

I think i speak for all of us we i say, this was crap!


If they where to make a new one make it have somthing to do with not throw in a bunch of random people and make it up as they

go along. but it would be awesome if there was a avatar( the 3-d one with aliens) one with a good storey line and some good characters.


overall i think it was horrible.

[edit] Anonymus 2

While the movie was not fully like the series nither is most movies based off of something. Spider-Man didn't fight Green Goblin first, The first X-Men where not Cyclops, Jean Grey and Storm, Blade fought Dracula at first not Frost, Lex Luthor wasn't the first villian Superman dealt with and Steert Fighter is centered around Ryu and slightly Ken not Guile. The way I see DDE is that it is just a retelling. It is it's own universe. They did some updates and i see why they picked Piccolo. He is there most well known villain in the ORIGINAL series. Most of the people complaining about it not being based on DBZ most likely bearly watched the original series. I see it as they went with the final story from DB so that in the next one they could hit the Piccolo Jr/World Martial Arts Tournament and maybe the Sayin Saga or end with the apperance of Vegeta and Nappa. Then hit the Namak/Friza saga. Then Androids/Cell Saga and finally end with the Buu Saga. All through out this they can add the missing characters in without much of a problem. Sure it changes things. But once again most movie based off of something do.

Plus Dragon Ball Mystical Adventure changed things up also. I don't see people b*itching about that. None of the DB/DBZ movies where canon either(except maybe Deadzone. It might be canon with the Anime). The other 2 live action movies where not great either. I mean one was based off of DB and had Nappa in it. Now how do you explain that one.

Plus Yamcha was the first fighter/ally Goku had beside Bulma.

[edit] Other Anonymous Guy =

It was an abomination in terms of being a Dragon Ball movie, but if they'd slightly changed it, changed the names completely, and called it something else, no one would really mind as much. It's a bad Dragon Ball movie, but a...decent film on its own. It ain't bad. But as a Dragon Ball movie? Dear God. So, in conclusion: Bad Dragon Ball Movie, Good Movie On Its Own.

[edit] My thoughts

I thought it was a pretty good movie. What you guys are all forgetting is that Akira had to approve everything that was put into the movie. I agree it could be a lot better, and I'm hoping the rumors of a reboot are true, but overall for this version, it wasn't bad.Barryc100588 04:45, March 1, 2011 (PST)

[edit] My Thoughs on the movie

I agree that the movie wasn't very faithful to original which is a big problem for some people but I personally had no hope that it would be in the first place. It was pretty clear from the trailers for the movie, to me at least, that movie was going to be very different from the manga so when the story was completely different I wasn't that disappointed (albiet I was caught off guard when Goku was in high school). I also don't see why the races were a problem at all. First of all Goku is an alien so it wouldn't have even been more accurate to make him Asian than it would have been to make him Caucasian. And for the rest of characters, I know they live in Japan (I'm guessing) so technically they should have been Asian but the fact of the matter is most of the characters physically look Caucasian. I'd personally would rather have the actors look as much like the real characters as possible. I personally thought the movie was terrible purely from a cinematic stand point. The story was weak, the dialogue was horrible and cheesy, the plot wasn't engaging in the slightest and the effects made it look like it was shot in somebody's garage rather than a movie studio. It looks like the budget for the movie was whatever the producers had in their pockets at the time minus cab fare. It was just one of those stereotypical BAD movies, the type of movie that has you counting the seconds until it finally ends. Thunderbender18 07:24, June 11, 2011 (PDT)

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